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Calv
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 Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:32 pm |
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I've recently discovered a site that has cards on it that have been coloured with these and they are gorgeous. However i have since found out that copic markers are very expensive so i'd probably go for sets of 12 at a time.
There appear to be different kinds though and wasn't sure where to start.
Any ideas on thickness of nibs, things like that?
Thanks for any help.
Calv.
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craftyhazelnut
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:23 pm |
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I've been looking at these and wondering whether to invest in some. I think there are also some pens called Pro markers that are similar but less expensive. I'd love to hear from someone who's got either. I know that with the copics you can buy new nibs and re-inkers, so you don't have to buy new pens when they run out.
I'll watch this with interest.
Love Hael
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Calv
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:41 pm |
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I first saw them used on this lady's blog......the blues in this card here are stunning!
http://papercraftsbyrach.blogspot.com/2 ... ching.html
She even tells you which colours she's used on many of her projects. I've emailed her for some advice on the pens, if i hear anything back i'll pass it on.
Calv.
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cazat81
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:48 pm |
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Stunning indeed Calv. 
I have the Pro Markers - still learning with them so not much help I am afraid. 
Carole
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Calv
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:37 am |
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Just had a very helpfull reply back, and she recommended this lady's site for info on copic markers.....
I like markers
Some excellent advice on blending and colour technique there.
Calv.
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:42 am |
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I've also heard good things and seen amazing results with copics....I don't have any, but maybe 1 day! 
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:40 am |
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Oooh Goregous Andrea
Can I ask, where on the stamped image did you start to colour, is it a matter of where and how you hold the marker as to how you get the light and darker shades of colour? Also what ink pad and card do you use with the pens?
Carole
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:57 am |
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I've got promarkers too, and like Carole haven't had a lot of time to experiment
I started colouring this image last night - plain colouring with no blending
I'm finding them easy to use but I need to experiment on larger areas as the ink dries quite quickly, again blending would probably help
I bought mine here, good selection & quick delivery
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:02 am |
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cazat81 wrote: Also what ink pad and card do you use with the pens?
Carole
I'm using memento tuxedo black (think the link above sells them too) & so far it's not run with my promarkers
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Angelnorth
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:13 am |
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I have some Copics. You don't have to buy sets Calv, you can buy open stock and just get the colours you think you'll use most. The cheapest I've found for individuals is Cult Pens ( www.cultpens.co.uk) where Ciao are £1.95 each and P&P is free for orders over £10. Somebody told me the other day they'd found them at £1.65 but I don't know where that was.
The basic Copic types are
Original - square barrel, one chisel tip, one fine bullet tip
Sketch - oval barrel, one brush tip, one chisel tip
Ciao - round barrel, one brush tip, one chisel tip
Ciao are the sort of 'student' or budget markers. They are not advertised as being refillable or being able to replace the nibs but apparently you can do both (the other two types of marker are advertised this way anyway).
I haven't used Pro markers so can't comment on those but I have used Tria which are also alcohol based. I have to say that for me the biggest difference is the quality of the nibs. The Tria are not a patch on the Copics. The flexible brush nib on the Sketch markers is absolutely astonishing. _________________ Joanne x
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craftyhazelnut
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:23 am |
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So, are the sketch ones the best ones to get, Joanne?
Love Hazel
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Angelnorth
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:40 am |
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I think it probably depends on how you use them Hazel. I like the Sketch nib configuration and don't really get on with the Original. The Ciao nibs are the same as the Sketch so I guess I'd get on with those too (I haven't tried them, I happened to buy Sketch from a US site when I was looking). I think Ciao is cheaper because of the nib replacement/refill thing and the colour range is slightly more limited than Sketch. What a lot of people do though is get Ciao for the most part and just fill in any gaps with Sketch if they really want those colours.
If you're doing detailed colouring of very small areas, you might find the brush-style nib of the Sketch/Ciao too flexible - you need a very light touch to control it in small areas. The Original fine bullet nib might well suit you better if you were doing a lot of this sort of colouring.
HTH!
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:57 pm |
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OK, I'm now in a position to tell you that the Ciao markers feel a bit different in your hand because of the barrel shape but the nibs feel exactly like the Sketch markers (I had to go into Newcastle and the arts supplies shop had open stock Ciaos - I may have purchased a couple  ). Given that they're cheaper, they're probably a good option to play with to start off with if you want Copics rather than one of the other brands. HTH! _________________ Joanne x
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:18 pm |
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Thanks for your help, Joanne. This afternoon I ordered a set of 12 basic ciao and also a set of 12 caio skin tones.
Love Hazel
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